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By a congressman? >> no, no, no, not at all. different world. that was a different league, a different world. no, he's just a great guy, and you know greg very well, right? that was a tremendous success last night in montana and greg is a tremendous person, and he's a tough cookie, and i'll stay with that. >> so you interviewed the president yesterday before he headed to montana for that rally. this is sort of classic trump we've all become accustomed to, doubling down. >> it's hard not to see this as part of a larger thing he's trying to do. the biggest thorns in his side are the press and mu...

Know greg very well, right. it was -- that was a tremendous success last night in montana, and greg is a tremendous person. and he's a tough cookie. and i'll stay with that. >> so you interviewed the president yesterday before he headed to montana for that rally. this is sort of classic trump that we've all become accustomed to. doubling down. >> it's hard not to see this as part of a larger thing he's trying to do. the biggest thorns in his side are the press and mueller. what is he trying to do? he tries to delegitimize both of them. undermine both of them. if he's going to be successful and...

>> i'm joined now by garrett haake on capitol hill. look, we have all known that lindsey graham and john mccain did a lot of things together. they were great friends and often the joint thorns in the side to pretty much anybody else who wasn't on their side. but that was -- that was something we don't often see from lindsey graham. >> reporter: no, that's really true, ali. i have seen more emotion like that on the senate floor in the last two days then in all the rest of the time i have been up here combined. so much of it, this outpouring of love from people who john mccain was not always on ...

Twitter's ceo, jack dorsey, defending his company from accusations of banning conservative content. >> shadow banning is a widely defined term. are we doing something according to political ideology or viewpoints and we are not, period. we do not look at content with regards to political viewpoint or ideology. >> the president and others are skeptical of that. our next guest says he was shadow banned, this time by google. >> here to explain, presidential historian and author of game of thorns, du doug weed, welcome. >> hi. thank you, rachel, ed and todd. >> very, very interesting. you have the...

>> what'd that do to you? >> as soon as i heard it, i knew i had to get out as fast as i could. i had to run. >> i guess it's one of those moments in life where you either grow up and deal with it or you decide to give up and stay a little boy. >> those were my two choices. are you going to panic or are you going to -- are you going to man up and are you going to try and get out of here? and i chose option two. >> reporter: and so he ran all day and into the thick black of a jungle night. his feet raw, his clothes ripped by unseen hazards, bloodied now by a thousand thorns that tore into his f...