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His part. the question is whether any of the figures associated with the trump administration or campaign that could be still caught up in this mess. >> i think i look forward to things in these mueller stories. one, does the logan act appear, and it was referenced in this, and one, does the foreign agent act appear and when that appears and tells me they really don't have anything only because there have only been two people prosecuted on the logan act. john carry all of september met with the iranian form ambassador in paris and admitted he was discussing the iran deal against the efforts of...

Middle american worker. that's what so many people are hoping for. they are willing to stomach this noise because they think he's going to offer them a different life. phil, is spygate president trump's get out of jail free card? >> he thinks it is. i talked to rudy giuliani who said trump is convinced this is working. he feels his polling is improving. he feels he put mueller in a partisan box. anybody who agrees with trump therefore thinks mueller's investigation is rigged. >> bob mueller is a republican. >> he is. they are creating a political frame around a russia investigation that when i...

Will follow saying it's entrapment. remember just because you're speak tog an investigator does not transform an otherwise benign interview into a perjury trap. it is always incumbent upon person giving the interview to be truthful. if what rudy giuliani has to say is true, that means no single person was ever in anything but a trap. that's wrong. >> it is amazing that you have a billionaire, a bully, these are objective facts from things he says and does. successfully to so many painting himself as the beleaguereded victim. >> absolutely and what all of these quarter turns and half turns and ...

The president has had kid gloves a bit toward mueller, saying in december he thought mueller would treat him fairly, following his lawyer's advice not to attack mueller that much on twitter, breaking from that only in recent weeks. but the president, as we have to remember, still has an interview decision to make about mueller. will he willingly sit down and talk to him? and given the recent events, will the president now take a more adversarial tone and say, okay, mr. mueller, you want to talk to me, subpoena me. i don't think i have to sit down with you. let's go to a judge and figure out if...

About openly. he talks to his friends about it. he talks to his advisers about it. he certainly thinks a lot about it. he's even sort of broached the subject publicly, even telling us in july he wouldn't have made sessions the attorney general if he knew he was going to recuse himself. obviously we don't know what the president's going to do. he's an unpredictable person. will he fire mueller? everyone in washington asks that question. who knows? what i do think we'll see here is a more adversarial tone towards mueller. the president has had kid gloves a bit toward mueller, saying in december ...