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It. they made the change. >> the homeland secretary says this is not a policy to separate people at the border. we do not have a policy of separatingilies at the border. we continued the policy from previousadministrations. there is no custodian relationship with the family members or if they broke the law. is she trying to thread ae needle here saying people should not come into the country if they are seeking asylum? they need to go to port of entry and say i need asylum? >> i think it is trying to thread a very, very fine needle in saying our policy is not to do this. it might happen if we ...

Stylistic difference from a candidate who this will be his race to lose. his brand is still rock solid in utah and he's finding that lane between the conservative base of his party and the president who he only sometimes aligns with. >> thank you, garrett. back with me michael steele, katherine lucy. and yamiche alcindor. i was watching you watch romney. you took a suck in of beth when he answered. >> he is threading a difficult needle. he does not see the president as a role model for personal behavior and rhetoric and mannerisms. he pivoted back to the policy piece. i think for him this is...

Of the sewing room's most experienced workers, but these days, he needs little extra help to lay down a straight stitch. >> i have to ask you, where did you get those glasses? your glasses do not look like they're prison issue. >> well, they're not. these glasses are a favor because of the fact i have trouble seeing to be able to eye the needle, but i leave them here. i cannot take them to the dorm. they're only for use here and i have to turn them into the office before i go back to the dorm. >> sometimes they have problems seeing, just reading, or especially with sewing. they have to do smal...

>> greg: what a wet blanket, but the development putting in's perspective. taking turns after shock of the porn interest, three americans are free. once you get past his unseeded lead past, his entire past reveals that talent. they elected a unique toolkit for unique times. able to engage rogue regimes and what they understand. carrots and a real stick, not fantasy. who knew that what we needed most was a reality tv star who actually deals in reality? so with those three people, what they have preferred a squeaky clean president threading alone in the oval office as they sat in a foreign jail,...

Is he is, and he should be, very, very concerned. >> back now with the panel. also joining the conversation, cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney mike geragos. mark, what does the new judge assigned to the case, what do you think it means to the case? >> he's a very well respected jurist in the central district, used to be a state court judge, has been on the federal bench as you mentioned, appointed by bush. thoughtful but generally what happens is -- and this is what trump's lawyers will do. they're going to do a motion to compel arbitration. generally that's going to get granted....