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Sanctions, diplomacy, all those kind of things. and by the way, working on our missile defense would be a good thing too. >> if the rhetoric is not ratch -- if it's not pulled back, your concern that we could unwittingly back into a war that was unnecessary. >> yes, because, you know, we don't have that much insight really into the internal mechanisms of how the north koreans make decisions. i suspect it's basically one guy, and he's rational on their scale, but i do worry about this unpress kepted -- unprecedented bellicose and threatening rhetoric from the president. i really wish he'd allow...

Tried to reduce the speed by pulling the throttle back, and nothing happened, and thus he might have been then hit the emergency brake, would the black box tell you this nothing happened when the engineer physically tried to pull the throttle back? >> you could. because it's keeping track of the time, the speed, and the distance at all three together. you can calculate then that if the throttle's reduced, you would expect it to reduce at a certain rate. and if that rate didn't occur. in other words, if the tlot are also recorded as being -- throttles are recorded as pulled back and it did not ...

Personally for a long period of time, and there's been no indication of this in the past. >> you know this man personally? >> very much. >> what's his background? what's in his file? any other complaints against him? >> consummate professional, matt. >> joining me now are two of the passengers on that flight, tony and laura. good morning, and it's good to see both of you on solid ground. >> you know, it's great to be on solid ground. >> well, lauren, let me ask you, you were in the fourth row, when did you realize something was terribly wrong on this flying? >> well, i think it was the moment ...

happened. he was sitting in the sixth row. he saw the captain leave the cockpit and then try to break into the bathroom. there was someone in there. he said the pilot was knocking on the bathroom door. then the flight attendants start started to pay attention there was a bit of commotion. the steward got on the phone and was talking to someone in the cockpit. then they changed the codes on the door. he overheard part of that conversati conversation. then they tried to take the captain to the back of the plane. he broke free and went to the front of the plane, banging on the door, thr...

>> eric: seriously. "good fellas." >> kimberly: throttle back, bob. throttle back. coming up, have you heard of the grinch who stole christmas? how about the superintendent who stole halloween? what? yeah, she is a real person. we'll talk to you all about him next on "the five." stay with us. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] you never know when,