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Years, 8 years. and the case in new york that you know we're talking about two years. i mean, i don't know why it took seven years for you guys to get to this point, why? >> it shouldn't take seven years. it took me three years to get the g.p.s. >> bill: bill why? who is holding it up. >> there is a whole bunch of factors that go into legislation. i'm a union iron worker. i'm not a lawyer. sometimes you get frustrated by the process that takes place in doing legislation. it shouldn't take seven years. i wasn't the senate president back in 2005 when it was introduced. this is a no brainer. we a...

They got, you know, five years, 8 years. and the case in new york that you know we're talking about two years. i mean, i don't know why it took seven years for you guys to get to this point, why? >> it shouldn't take seven years. it took me three years to get the g.p.s. >> bill: bill why? who is holding it up. >> there is a whole bunch of factors that go into legislation. i'm a union iron worker. i'm not a lawyer. sometimes you get frustrated by the process that takes place in doing legislation. it shouldn't take seven years. i wasn't the senate president back in 2005 when it was introduced. t...

Whatever -- there used to be some barriers that you just didn't do. you know, whether it was we stop calling people mr. and mrs., and now it's so easy for people to show up and throw names, call people names. >> i guess it's a mirror to society and also a mirror to the political discourse that goes on now through all the blogs and twitter and everything else. people find it much easier to be direct. but i think there is a political element to this, which is that they're expressing the anger they're hearing, and the question is, does it speak to anyone other than the base? do you actually appea...

Calling people mr. and mrs., and now it's so easy for people to show up and throw names, call people names. >> i guess it's a mirror to society and also a mirror to the political discourse that goes on now through all the blogs and twitter and everything else. people find it much easier to be direct. but i think there is a political element to this, which is that they're expressing the anger they're hearing, and the question is, does it speak to anyone other than the base? do you actually appeal to people with this kind of anger, this kind of gut feeling? and i don't know that the people who a...