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Mayor won't change. he's not in favor of vouchers. he tried to get rid of charter schools. >> there's a lot of controversy about how slavery and the depravation of blacks over the years affect what happens now. i don't want to get into that. what i want to get into is when you were mayor, you had a deal with al sharpton. you had to deal with him personally. he was around in new york city. how did you deal with him? deblazio, he is his best friend. >> i watched the crown heights riots happen. >> in brooklyn? >> in brooklyn. i think sharpton had a lot to do with insighting the riots. they made a...

Stand and protect the american nazi party when they had their demonstrations in several cities in cook county, illinois. and when you're standing in front of the crowd like that -- in those days, we didn't have all the body armor, all the equipment they have now. but when you're standing in front of a crowd like that, what you realize is that you're sitting on top of a bomb that might explode or it might not. and what may ignite it is leadership on the part of whoever's in that crowd. and if you have anarchists or hooligans or hoodlums and people that want to loot and get a free tv or case of ...

St. louis and fergs. ferguson. they had what they call a venting period. three or four hours where people could break windows and throw rocks. >> do whatever they wanted. >> i read the gentry report done for governor cuomo. talked about one of the mistakes. he said a cooling off period becomes a heating up period. you have got to stop the first stone, the first rock, the first window. i also realized that by dealing with sharpton, mayor dinkins was elevating him the same level of the mayor. here was my role i am not dealing with you. i will only deal with people in legitimate interest in solvi...

Same mistakes made in st. louis and fergs. ferguson. they had what they call a venting period. three or four hours where people could break windows and throw rocks. >> do whatever they wanted. >> i read the gentry report done for governor cuomo. talked about one of the mistakes. he said a cooling off period becomes a heating up period. you have got to stop the first stone, the first rock, the first window. i also realized that by dealing with sharpton, mayor dinkins was elevating him the same level of the mayor. here was my role i am not dealing with you. i will only deal with people in legiti...

Repercussions when the mechanxi military crosses into the u.s. we let them go with an apology at the orders of the state department. >> it's one thing to cross over the border and another thing to shoot at united states border agents. katie, let me bring you into this story. what do you make of it? >> it's unacceptable. there's a double standard that has been pointed out already. we have to keep in mind that the mexican government has high standards if border patrol agents including they don't like the fact that our agents use lethal force against those who throw rocks which is also a lethal w...