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President from impeachment inquiry that they call baseless. it comes after reports that david holmes and official at u.s. embassy in kiev confirms he overheard the controversial phone call and call for a biden investigation. joining me now, two former federal prosecutors, nelson cunningham and cynthia oxley. you here first, cynthia. what is your take on the defense we just heard that the president has made a public appeal, so either way, is it a crime? >> just because the president has morphed now from everything was perfect to everybody else tells me it's perfect. now if he moves to it was wa...

Political process. they have the facts on their side but it also matters how they put this out to the public. what we've seen in sunday talk shows and comments democratic lawmakers have made, it's a very consistent and clear strategy to lay out this insidious narrative of a president withholding military aid to a critical ally to strong-arm them into delivering the dirt they wanted. >> i'm curious on mark sandy's testimony, tbehind closed doord, republicans said it would help the president, democrats say the opposite. do we have any idea where the truth lies? >> i think it's clear where the tr...

Money. yes, they got the money after the whistle-blower filed the complaint and congress found out about it. we know the aid was withheld and it was withheld for that reason. direct testimony has shown that. trying to deny that, the existence of that evidence, is kind much silly on the part of the republicans. but as i said, they have to say something. >> that last point i was making, which john said, it's obvious. it seems so simple. >> if we were to compare the democratic strategy and republican strategy, what we saw the last week is democrats just relying on the facts and keeping it simple....

House democrats on a path that is sane and sensible for them to try to, you know, take this piece of power that they have if they, in fact, get the house, and expand that and position themselves for 2020 versus kind of throwing everything at the wall and perhaps hurting themselves. >> brian, our country hasn't always been quite this way. for the americans who spend every day kind of bummed out at our divisions, is there any scenario where our divisions don't increase, if anything, starting wednesday? >> there are -- there is a scenario if the democrats take the house, for example, and they com...

Emily's piece, how many americans are kind of saying to themselves, yeah, that sounds about right? >> i'd say by the latest polls, about 49%. i mean, the poll after poll after poll has shown that most americans think that the president is divisive or racially hostile. what i have always maintained, none of this is news, you can speak to david k. johnson who's been on this network that the president's history of racist statements is legendary. but what has always been more problematic, look, being a racist is not a disqualifier. lots of racists. but his policies are the manifestations of his pe...