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Lawlessness and looting, that's the cost -- >> you're dodging. >> i don't know what we're talking about. i'm talking about the thug. that was the conversation. using the word thug. we don't -- >> i'm going to give you the floor. hold on. she's saying -- >> you gave me a question. i thought i was answering it. >> we got off. she's saying these are misguided young people. i was lifeve on the air monday night, they were punching a store owner in the face because he was trying to protect his property. they threw cement blocks at firefighters trying to save the neighborhoods. i'm thinking thugs is ...

Guy. >> because he comes from compton, though, it could be used as racist, some of the references i have seen it is definitely, definitely racist. >> well, i mean, some of the references on line are he is an n word thug, that is pretty clear. but the term "thug behavior" connotes what? >> i saw the original interview, i thought what the [ bleep ] did i see here? he spent every second of the game in the interview trying to explain himself, and he actually did a good job, saying i'm a passionate player, on the way to the super bowl. he got overheated. >> why are we so obsessed with it? >> hold o...