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The standpoint of a trainer or anyone else interacting with whales. some networks, not saying yours, are saying there was a death. there was a death several years ago by a young man that snuck in a park, hid behind trees and went in with tilly. that is like going over the fence at the nascar race. you can't blame seaworld for for that. the death in canada did happen. seaworld, i take my hat off to, brought the animal to their parks to give it a life. that is what they did. some kind of human error involved, i believe this is me, i don't know what happened, human error involved in something lik...

>> no, not really. but before i answer that question, dawn was a beautiful person. i did several shows with her, with tilly even in the background and that type of thing. and i can tell you now that she would want her work to continue. steve irwin was a good conservation friend. i can tell you, he would want his work to continue. and even myself, as i leave for africa next week to do shows with a lot of other animals, i would hope that my work would continue if something happened. with that said, is this a dangerous animal? of course, it is called a killer whale. you film in glacier bay, alask...

Involved, i believe, this is me, i don't know what happened, when there is human error involved in something like this, then things happen. >> well this -- you pointed out two other instances. those two other instances of deaths are times this particular whale has been blamed for someone else's death some, three deaths on this whale's head. it seems to me shouldn't one death be enough? shouldn't seaworld have retired this animal? >> well, you say retired. remember something, that no one ever swam with tilly at seaworld. the animal is with other whales, females and tilly bred and they had babie...