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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131220:03:21:00 - Vimarsana News

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Reinterpret some of these, you know, scriptural passages we keep quoting. you know times are changing. we no longer believe in a flat earth, right? that is actually part of the old testament too. so now we know that -- homosexuality is no longer a choice. why don't we change our position on that as well. we have to. >> reverend. i know you have the gratitude of millions of people for having done this and taking this stand. most important leap you have your son's gratitude. frank and tim schaeffer. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thank you so much. >> thank you for having us. >> comin...

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131220:03:19:00

Intend, it to be a hate speech. but it comes across as that. to our homosexual brothers and sisters. >> tim, you got past the wedding with absolutely no problems as your father has told us. now here we are years later. finally some one filed a complaint about it. and the worst you feared has actually happened. how does that feel for you today? it makes me feel partially responsible. this is something that my dad has done for me. and while -- this has been a horrible ordeal for the family. very painful. especially for my father. i am really proud of my dad. from the beginning of the whole proce...

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Board of ordained ministry and declared he is not willing or able to uphold the laws of the book of discipline in its entirety in the future as required by the trial courts verdict. when asked to surrender credentials as required, he refused to do so. therefore the board was compelled by the jury's decision to deem his credentials surrendered. joining me now for a last word exclusive, frank schaeffer and his son tim. reverend, when you did this, did you realize that you were going to be in -- in such direct contradiction to your church's position on the subject? yes, actually i did know that a...

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Never heard a thing about it until earlier this year when one of my parishioners actually filed against me. tim, when your father was able to preside at your wedding i'm sure that was a wonderful, important element of the wedding. were you worried about his future? of course it was one of the most difficult decisions i have ever made mine life. i knew the position i was putting him in of course. he could lose his career. his calling, really. and that would be devastating. but i also knew on the other hand. if i didn't ask him. he would have been devastated he hadn't been able to participate in...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131220:06:19:00 - Vimarsana News

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Like as a homosexual christian, to be told that. it must really throw them into, inner turmoil. it is just not right. that is some times what i refer to as hate speech by the church. even though they've don't intend, it to be a hate speech. but it comes across as that. to our homosexual brothers and sisters. >> tim, you got past the wedding with absolutely no problems as your father has told us. now here we are years later. finally some one filed a complaint about it. and the worst you feared has actually happened. how does that feel for you today? it makes me feel partially responsible. this ...