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Guys in jail. ideologically these groups are very similar. we've already seen these kinds of groups very recently try to do a similar kind of attack in the times square area. >> in terms of the device, though, that was used. authorities early on were saying look, this is a pretty primitive device. the fertilizener the vehicle wasn't actually explosive grade fertilizer. you know, you see the timing device there. so in terms of the expertise, it doesn't seem like they have -- whoever the group is does not necessarily have that capability at this point. >> right. well, it's an amateur thing unles...

>> right. and it's utterly indis-christmas nit. and of course, you know, we've had a case in just the last seven months of an afghan with two other residents of the united states trying to attack not only wall street with homemade bombs but also times square by the account of their own, you know, the court proceedings that have put these guys in jail. ideologically these groups are very similar. we've already seen these kinds of groups very recently try to do a similar kind of attack in the times square area. >> in terms of the device, though, that was used. authorities early on were saying lo...

When they are able to put the components together. but we know it had propane tanks. we know there was gasoline and water -- wiring, and the wiring was to a timing device or devices. the fact there were timing device meant it was set to go off at a specific time to cause that explosion and possible devastation. >> thomas, are they going to be cross-referencing the components now that they know what they center will the cross-reference them with other similar incidents that have taken place elsewhere? >> yes. everything from where the components were bought as the fbi agent that you interviewed...

Tanks of gasoline. >> i would be checking on the clocks. that gives you -- that's probably unusual. once i check the label, may may be able to find out who is the droibt tor of that propane type gas. >> we're talking about finding a clock inside the car. what kind of clock? what's the purpose? >> it's a timing device. it i said it. it works its down to zero. that's when it's going to go off. so we may have -- when i say zero, i may have it set to go off at 6:45. hopefully we create a spark and

That was a bomb in the hold of a 747 that blew up over lockerbie, scotland and it was on a timing device so you don't have to be beside a bomb to detonate it so i wonder if this is such a great concern the proper security response probably should be don't put them on the plane whatsoever. i can't imagine that happening in this day and age. >> that's not going to happen, completely eliminate ipads or laptops. >> right. >> but there's no doubt, peter bergen, and you've studied this for a long time, they are deeply concerned right now, all the counter-terror experts, that al shabaab and isis and ...