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Malay dish. what's your favorite chinese dish? >> cab driver: chinese, ho kai min. >> anthony: ho kai min? >> cab driver: ho kai min. sometimes chicken rice. >> anthony: chicken rice of course. >> cab driver: yes. >> anthony: how about favorite indian dish? >> cab driver: definitely biryani. you know that? >> anthony: the biryani. >> cab driver: ya. biryani rice. >> anthony: oh, sungei road right? >> cab driver: yes, yes. >> anthony: oh that's the best -- on sungei road. it's funny. i recognize every place here by food. [ laughter ] >> goh: tony, how are you? >> anthony: pretty good. >> goh: m...

No true answer. >> anthony: the answer is not from singapore, right? they're going to have to come in from china. >> goh: for the 15,000, or 20,000 food stalls like this we have in singapore, if it's public run like this one, you can't hire foreigner it's meant for singaporeans. >> anthony: but isn't the beginning of all of this was people from china, india. >> goh: that's what i keep saying, our food came from the rest of the world. yeah, we had nothing. and in that tradition, i say we must continue. >> anthony: for rent, cook food stall. we should do a pop-up. get my apron. >> anthony: stamf...

Possible society for singapore. but let's have that debate. >> anthony: i mean, it's a horrifying thought, "what if?" >> donald: it's possible that the human mind, that the average citizen, cannot deal with that much diversity, that we need these curbs or restrictions on our freedom. >> anthony: what if free speech is like bad? >> donald: it's like a drug, right? it's too much of a good thing.

U.s. there is a high probability that singapore will not thrive in such a world. >> anthony: a lot of social engineering has been superimposed to hold that together, and i think what a lot of westerners who come to singapore come here skeptical are often reluctantly holding to the inescapable conclusion that it seems to work. >> donald: it seems to work. but of course, the post independence singapore government has been often accused of being extremely keen and extremely competent at social engineering. of course, the most powerful instrumentf social engineering is public housing. you know, be...

>> anthony: do you think that young creative singaporeans feels those constraints and suffer from them? >> najip: i think some of them who travel knows better. most of them are over educated and under exposed, meaning they have very little experience in what they know. and i think that's what we are lacking. they're looking for things to do. and the problem with this is we're living in a small country and we have nowhere to go and no way to experience these things. if you're in new york and you don't like the city life and you say shit, i'm -- >> anthony: you can say "shit" on the show. >> naj...