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Sport by my view or the judges? >> again, they're not saying cheerleading is not a sport. at georgia tech cheerleading is a sport. we are under the athletic association. we are consider ad sport through the athletic department. i have athletes. i train athletes every day to support the football, basketball, volleyball team and all the other sports that we have. they train. they compete. they have athletic trainers. they're definitely athletes. it is definitely a sport. >> i'm sorry. i agree with your assessment. but doesn't that then fall under title 9? >> not necessarily. the sport of cheerle...

Is that a picture of an athlete? a sportsman? compare that to this photo, a young man on my own staff, former male cheerleader, lifting a woman over his head with one hand, i defy you, john daley. to even lift a small girl over your heard. even a child. you be the judge. joining us now, president association of girls and women in sports. also with us is mindy hilton, head cheerleading coach at georgia tech university. as a coach, mindy, how do you view this ruling? >> well, i mean, i understand it. it's definitely a debatable rule. but i don't think the ruling this morning is saying that cheer...