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Back and feel like, okay, police just you can solve it, you solve it. we're seeing the murder rate continue to spike. i think that's not acceptable. so we have to engage -- let them know we need them. >> bill: i agree with you. if the community comes together with you, the relation-based community should be leading, and then the police and everybody cooperates to make it harder. >> equal partners. >> bill: on the gun front, the narcotics dealers are going to get guns no matter what you do. the argument can be made, and one black elderly man on the south side of chicago got prosecuted, because ...

Back and feel like, okay, police just you can solve it, you solve it. we're seeing the murder rate continue to spike. i think that's not acceptable. so we have to engage -- let them know we need them. >> bill: i agree with you. if the community comes together with you, the relation-based community should be leading, and then the police and everybody cooperates to make it harder. >> equal partners. >> bill: on the gun front, the narcotics dealers are going to get guns no matter what you do. the argument can be made, and one black elderly man on the south side of chicago got prosecuted, because ...

Everybody cooperates going to make it a lot harder. >> has to be equal partners. >> bill: narcotic dealers are going to get guns no matter what you do. the argument can be made and elderly black man south side of chicago got prosecuted because he said i'm tired of people breaking into my house, i have got a gun and i need it for protection. i'm not tag the gun away from that man, father, he has the right to protect himself. >> here is what i disagree with i understand the second amendment. been interpreted people have the right to own guns. i have no problem with that all i'm say something we ...

Everybody cooperates going to make it a lot harder. >> has to be equal partners. >> bill: narcotic dealers are going to get guns no matter what you do. the argument can be made and elderly black man south side of chicago got prosecuted because he said i'm tired of people breaking into my house, i have got a gun and i need it for protection. i'm not tag the gun away from that man, father, he has the right to protect himself. >> here is what i disagree with i understand the second amendment. been interpreted people have the right to own guns. i have no problem with that all i'm say something we ...

Make it a lot harder. >> has to be equal partners. >> bill: narcotic dealers are going to get guns no matter what you do. the argument can be made and elderly black man south side of chicago got prosecuted because he said i'm tired of people breaking into my house, i have got a gun and i need it for protection. i'm not tag the gun away from that man, father, he has the right to protect himself. >> here is what i disagree with i understand the second amendment. been interpreted people have the right to own guns. i have no problem with that all i'm say something we need to title guns like cars. ...