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Back to king david and then as history progressed, they built up the walls so that the top bit is the -- is the newest bit. >> anthony: and by newest you mean -- >> yotam: i mean up to the ottoman time which the turks left here about- you know about 150 years ago and the brits came and they conquered us. i wasn't here. >> anthony: born here, now cooking in london, yotam ottolenghi is the widely known, respected chef and coauthor of the book, "jerusalem." >> yotam: basically this city was divided into two until 1967 when there was the famous six day war and the whole of the bit that we're trave...

Be here. >> amind: i know most of them and most of them they're happy that we're here. because actually we gave them prosperity for the last 45 years and then when the plo came they lost it. >> anthony: i'm guessing a lot of people would disagree with that statement. >> amind: we work with high tech security, radars and cameras. >> anthony: so, from the high ground you can see anybody walking at night. you could see from pretty far out? >> amind: definitely. >> anthony: and could you identify them after the fact? >> amind: depends. but we have our protocols that we work with. and we had our su...

>> anthony: i'm curious what everyone thinks. will, in your lifetime, i guess the first question will be "in your lifetime, will you be able to visit yafa?" [ speaks arabic ] laila: she says, you know, she hopes she can. she hopes she can go to jerusalem as well. [ speaks arabic ] laila: so she's optimistic, yeah. [ speaks arabic ] anthony: what about --? laila: he saying that, first he said you're not allowing us to and then he said -- then he self corrected and said the israeli aren't allowing us to. >> anthony: go, go! [laughs] [ speaks arabic ] [ speaks arabic ] >> laila: this is the norma...

>> anthony: where did you grow up? >> jakob: michal atanya, near the beach. >> anthony: near the beach. not, not the neighborhood. >> jakob: but we met in the neighborhood. in . and we were together in hotel. >> anthony: how did that go down with the families? >> jakob: wonderful now. now, wonderful. >> anthony: now good. >> jakob: yes. very good. >> anthony: at the beginning not so much. >> jakob: started it yes, with the questions versus the answers, and start to understand that we love each other, and they can do nothing. so we continue. and they support us. >> yotam: this is your special f...

That time, you ever go to anybody's house, sit down and eat? >> amichai: not there, but in other villages. >> anthony: ever sat down at a muslim table? >> amichai: muslim table. >> anthony: your host and everybody else. >> amichai: coffee. >> anthony: but not here? >> amichai: no because i don't as a religious jew, i eat only kosher. so they respect that so they don't offer me. >> anthony: so i gotta ask you about something that troubled me coming up. the first house before you come up the drive to this village. the graffiti on the front. >> amind: yes. >> anthony:the targets spray-painted on ...