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That what bernie sanders is saying is socialism, why didn't he ask him that? i think that's a wasted moment on his part. to eugene's point, it's all about framing, right? elizabeth warren has the advantage of really explaining things in a simple way. she did better than sanders did just explaining in a calm and simple way what she wants to do. tariffs, had that been framed as, we're going to tax every single thing you buy and slap a tax on it when it comes in, tariff wouldn't have sounded like such a great idea in youngstown, ohio. donald trump was able to frame it that china is paying for it,...

Five people sentenced so far. to eugene's point, robert mueller made it clear the president could be charged once he is out of office. chris matthews said it, some have said best, he could serve another term or he could serve time in prison. knowing all of that, from a legal perspective, how did you view the testimony? >> so, steph, from a legal perspective, what we saw yesterday was an opening statement. from the moment the mueller report was released, i've been of the view that it's great to hear from mueller, but mueller is the prosecutor. he's not the witness. he can only tell us what the ...

Du elected members of congress. >> we know the president launched his campaign saying he did not think america was great and he wanted to make it great again. the challenge of the greatness doesn't have room for people like the members of the squad. he is attacking them but doesn't realize there are more people who see the world the way these four women do than he is acknowledging. these are people he is alienating as he heads into 2020 and he may not be concerned. he may only care about his base. the reality is if he wants to be unifier as he said he did in his inauguration speech, that i can...

Sides, these current statements really speak to his racism, and it's unfortunate that republicans in congress, more just for them and one independent, couldn't find a way to condemn his statements. >> and you gentlemen are so good together here in the studio. i want to show you eugene's reaction on this network earlier today. >> go back "go back to africa" chant from the segregationists who tried to keep students from integrating what had been previously all-white schools, who tried to keep public accommodations segregated for whites only. and that's essentially what the president has said. no...

>> >> and you gentlemen are so good together here in the studio. i want to show you eugene's reaction on this network earlier today. >> "go back to africa" was a chant from the segregationists who tried to keep students from integrating what had been previously all-white schools, who tried to keep public accommodations segregated for whites only.io and that's essentially what the president has said. e not just essentially, that's literally what the president said to four congressmen, women of color. i'm not quite ready to go all the way to the political ramifications of this or that, it just h...