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On religious liberty is crucial to america's understanding of everything we are. to separate and allow us to function. throughout all of history, religions or kings had ruled. the bill of rights, all the founders and writers of the constitution came from here and while some of them had their flaws he really dwelled -- importantly so -- on how their genius out the vision for how this country could overcome those flaws faster than anywhere else in the world. because they did not inherit a perfect world. >> harris: there is no such thing, and i see capri cafaro nodding away. so we hit on a host o...

Actions. do you think issa got away with this? >> i do. i think it's very unfortunate that anybody could get away with this kind of activity. in order for us to function, ed, we've got to have some type of a way we can get along. there has to be rules and there are rules. those rules must be adhered to. one of the main rules is you want to make sure that the minority has a chance to assert its views. and in this instance, chairman issa makes a decision, goes against the rules and basically shuts off the mike. that is not the first time, ed, he has done that. he did it to one of my colleagues, ...

Be a president who presided over a functional washington or a disfunctional washington. if he can start to get washington to function, work with republicans, get -- without congress, he's gone as far as he possibly can. i know he would be disappointed in that and his voters would be disappointed in that as well. coming up at the bottom of the hour, as mentioned, we will hear from senator joe manchin of west virginia about his plan to curb gun violence. a clash between guards and detainees at guantanamo bay prison. the crackdown was necessary because prisoners had covered up security camera...

>> right. >> that has been a hard thing for democrats to communicate. i think this is finally offered them an opportunity to say the propaganda sounds great but when you get down to it who they are arguing for, who they are defending are the people who need it the least. >> are there repercussions in 2013? democrats are sharpening the knife thinking maybe we can take back the house? do you think this debacle carries through an election season or do you think the american people forgets about it? >> i think it hurts republicans because this is driving independent voters who just want washington...

we'll be live when it hams. yesterday speaker boehner told the troops to "get their asses in line". apparently not enough republicans have, and now his credibility is on the line. most of the opposition coming from tea party supporters, raw, open, direct rebellion. >> we want to make sure we never get here again. i want to support something that makes sure we never get here again. >> the deal that is on the table makes the hole deeper. and so don't -- you shouldn't expect people who believe that we should balance the budget to vote for a deal that makes the hole deeper. >> i can't su...