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Landed, a strategic air base there. since that time, there is been a lot of to'ing and fro'ing. unclear who controls which part of which territory in those outskirts of the ukrainian capital. the latest information we've had within the past few minutes, the ukrainian security services say russian forces are holding about 40 civilians in a building in that region. holding they will as hostages, is what the ukrainian security forces are saying. so it is obviously a very fluid situation. and again, there seems to be some stand-off with civilians caught in the middle between the two warring sides,...

Korea, you are not concerned about the to'ing and fro'ing of all of the politics. you're concerned about whether your equipment works, whether you're going to get paid, whether the government is going to shut down and those things. we need to take care of essential business first. >> well, speaking of military equipment, i want to ask you about this idea of a military parade. because you had told the hill that you didn't, quote, know that it is necessary. this is something that is already -- the president's request, going into effect by the pentagon. what do you mean by that? >> i was asked a ...

"fire and fury" and then kind of walked it back in a statement, subsequent statement, what the special counsel robert mueller wants to do is make it very cheer to steve bannon and also the president that he, steve bannon, is going to have to come before mueller and tell the truth, what really happened, what he really knows. >> so that is -- but that happens when mueller gets his chance. but now with the house, can they force him to cooperate? what happens now? >> no, they really can't force him to cooperate. i don't think any more than it has. there could be more to'ing and fro'ing if the repu...

We have the perfect person here, cnn's chief political correspondent is dana bash. she joins us now with more on this breaking news. where do we start? let's talk about tonight, all right? steve bannon appearing before the house intel committee today in a marathon session. it lasted for more than ten hours. what's going on? what do you know? >> it lasted for more than ten hours, yet it seems as though much of the to'ing and fro'ing was much about the questions steve bannon said he was unable to answer. i am told by a source that bannon was told explicitly by the white house, at least his legal...

Senate-confirmed. he was a member of the president's staff. and certainly there is a history of this going both ways. just on a very different topic, i remember condoleeza rice, back during the bush administration, when she was the national security adviser, there was a huge to'ing and fro'ing whether she should come testify in public about various things going on in the bush administration. finally they agreed that the answer is yes. but that kind of tug-of-war about executive versus legislative branch has gone the other way in the past. we'll see how that goes. this is going to open up that ...