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Quote, in the form of new renovation of old and existing fences and walls. in the past, he has always said, "i will build a wall" suggesting a new shiny wall. so is this a shift? >> the president's statement is absolutely true. folks often overlook, in fact, what democrats try to get us to not pay attention to, was in the funding bill in april, where several billion dollars we could use for replacing old wall along the border. the president wants to make sure that people don't come across the border illegal. that drugs don't come across the border illegally. you do that with physical barriers....

Several hundred miles of wall. again, this is part of the discussion. why it's fair to say we're close to a deal. >> just to sort of put a fine point on this. the president's die-hard supporters are fuming. you've already heard it. they view what happened last night as a flip-flop. steve king among others sayingth president's base has blown up. what do you say to those who worry that they got played? the art of the steal some have suggested today. can the president deal with democrats and keep his base intact? >> here's what i'd say to my friends on the right, my friends at the freedom caucus....

Order, daca? >> we have to make a new set of standards -- >> you're going to split up families? >> no, no, we're going to keep the families together. >> but you're going to keep them together out? >> they have to go. >> so to be clear, carol, the president has changed his mind, whether the deal was resolved last night. he said, hey, you figure out a way to keep him here, is a change of position? >> yes, that's absolutely right. he was elected to cut deals. i just think a lot of people probably didn't think he was going to cut these kinds of deals. >> this is what he ran on. immigration was at ...

Border control. we're working on a plan for daca. people want to see that happen. you have 800,000 young people brought here, no fault of their own, so we're working on a plan. we'll see how it works out. but we're going to get massive border security as part of that. i think something can happen. we'll see what happened. but something will happen. the wall will come later. we're right now renovating large sections of wall. massive sections. making it brand-new. we're building four different samples of the wall to see which one we're going to choose and the wall is going to be built. it will b...

Its nuclear program. what should happen with this agreement? john: i would have abrogated this deal 100 days ago. it's a strategic mistake for this country. it's so badly word it would be like trying to nail jell-o to a wall. if i were teaching a course on international negotiations and had this with an exercise, and they came back with this deal, i would flunk the american team. eric: president obama and john kerry said it will prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear bomb. john: it will facilitate them. we need to keep asking questions.