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Social media site. we always unfortunately in these times want to know the motive. what would make a 43-year-old man walk into a hole and kill two people? and then go next door to the university center there and shoot and kill another person. then put a statement out, michigan state university? i have to tell you guys law enforcement was on the scene and on this right away. they acted appropriately and they've possibly saved a lot of lives by getting this guy off of campus of campus. >> todd: that was my initial instinct the law enforcement didn't seem to say that something else stood out pres...

Active shooter training. elementary to middle to high school. so they knew what to do in a situation like that. do you think that saved lives as well? >> absolutely, todd. we have learned over a period of time because we have so, so many of these mass shootings around the country. and universities and high schools and elementary schools, they have now all put in place a drill. they know what to do immed immediately. and in the circumstances at michigan state, they acted immediately and notify the students and put it in place. this was, you don't ever want this to happen to the country but if i...

This is now worldwide. how much broader does this get, raymond? >> well, we have bubble zones here in the united states where depending on -- this is the danger of this uk order, it's elastic, todd. it can include other things. it was founded to stop public drunkenness and people attacking -- yelling at people on the street. but now it's expanded to whatever the local magistrates think it should constitute. that is a danger, and we are seeing some of that here in the united states, particularly those who silently pray outside these abortion clinics, they should be allowed to speak, to pray pri...

Todd: this is good. it's cocoa. carley: this is not good. this is a hard pass for me. griff: i'm fighting with this to open. todd: you guys want to try a hot dog candy cane, plump and juice. carley: it's like no one ever asked for that . i feel like the twinkie flavored ones might be good. griff: i'll let you know if i can open it. do you have nails? todd: give ted the hamburger one. carley: i'll use any teeth. todd: twinkie's not bad. how did you get it open? griff: i got it open. carley: hot dog is not good. griff: who wants a pickle. i'll try hot dog. there's no cream filling. carley: no to...

Designated zones illegal, but even the idea of private mental prayer, making the sign of the cross can get you arrested. this really needs to be looked at by the uk and citizenery there and 40-days of life are pushing back because they'd like to talk to women approaching the abortion clinics, but just generally what else is there? antisocial behavior, passing gas and wearing flip-flops outside. that's the rubric under which this falls and a back handed compliment in the season here, todd, it's an acknowledgement from the government that prayer changes things and needs to be watched and maybe t...