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Beginning. the beginning to what? i mean, gadhafi you expressed it well. until recently he was on the terrorist list. now imagine what he's going to do if he does remain there? look, i am arguing about things that can happen. this was successful for tom's objective which i would like no one to have these atrocities hoisted upon them by gadhafi. but now to what end? how can we really believe that the united states is going to be able to hand over to these allies of ours whose militaries are so -- inferior to ours as good as they might be. >> so we can't turn it over? we got to finish this out? ...

Was to prevent gadhafi going into benghazi and eastern libya and slaughtering the people there, hunting down those people who stood up for their liberty with only their courage and asked us for their help and would being hunted down tonight as we speak if he hadn't done this. >> so what is our end game here, tom? how does this end? >> well it begins with people being safe in eastern libya. now we have time to work on the end game that the president committed ourselves to two or three weeks ago. it was long before this mission that he said gadhafi has to go. there is an extraordinarily u.n. sec...

Joe sestak who is the former director of defense policy and national security council for president clinton and also a former vice admiral of the united states navy. we're also joined tonight by tom molinowski washington director of human rights watch. good to have you with us tonight good to be with you. >> admiral sestak, if gadhafi is not killing civilians anymore and we have crippled his movement militarily isn't this mission off to a good start? there was no doubt the united states military would do this. this was the easy part. having served as you mentioned in the clinton administration...