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I was not ready to accept them. they sounded defeatist. now 14 years removed for 9/11 and with yet another incident they are making more sense to me. they describe the world in which we live. the point is we need to fight terror without succumbing to it. to continue this discussion i have the ideal person tom ridge, was the governor of pennsylvania on september 11. then was tapped by george w. bush to be the nation's first secretary of homeland security. joining me now is tom ridge, governor let me begin with a question of is a mansemanics. how do you refer to this that unfolded in chattanooga...

>> your opinion on gitmo. is that black and white? or is it a gray area a dozen years later? i've said many. times before, the concern that other nations and other leaders about guantanamo wasn't that we took individuals and put them there. so it wasn't the place, it was the absence of adjudication as to whether or not they should be detained permanently there. and with our legal system we're finally addressing that issue. >> all right, tom rich, thank you very much for being on the show this morning. >> nice to join you again. >> thank you. >> great having you. >> this morning pat sajak may w...

The edge of the japanese capital and they're really gearing up now to help these people, the first aircraft flew up and the american red cross is behind me and they're gearing up operations. so they're really trying to help these people, but it is desperate times. back to you. >> steve: all right, david piper with the latest, thank you. >> brian: you have to wonder. do people know how to seal up their homes? i wouldn't know how. >> steve: tom rich told us how to. >> martha: electrical tape, remember all that? your windows and doors are sealed with duct tape. who knows? look at this house. we h...

That's a bad idea. and leon panetta issued a dire warning. joining us is secretary of homeland security, tom rich. >> governor, someone who has received briefings on a daily basis, intelligence briefings, how important is it for a president to get the briefings every single day? >> i think it's critical in his -- to take the opportunity, as he did, i am sure, as a businessman to learn more about his adversaries on the other side. except on this occasion as of january 20th he doesn't represent trump inc., he representatives the united states of america. i think he was a successful businessman b...