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And everything we could count showed an obama edge. but the republicans sort of did something tough to themselves. they really shocked and awed their own base, because they weren't ready for this. >> well, i think it's very interesting, because i go back to that interview, i think it was ron suskind did with a member of the bush team who told him, hey, you guys live in the reality-based community but we don't have to, and was bragging about the way that they were able to create their own reality and this was such a good thing for them politically. but it turned out not to be such a good thing ...

Right. i guess, you know, there are lots of questions about this wof obviously. and one of them is, in the middle, when supposedly, or a disgruntled or concerned fbi agent went to some house republican members, eric cantor, and got him involved. so there are -- it seems like there may have been, on the part of some people, some political considerations, which would really be awful. i think it's going to be a while before we get to the bottom of why was this important, how was it pursued? were the proper channels followed? and where are we now? >> let's look at that. congressman kantor, of cour...

It's -- who the hell is grover norquist anyway?" we can say that because we're quoting a former president. who is grover norquist and is he as powerful as he thinks about it? >> he is someone powerful. but at the end of the day, the american people smoke. we had this national conversation over the last 18 months about raising taxes. we're not raising taxes. that was a legitimate policy conversation in the public square. clearly, president obama won. sort of. and the reason why sort of. >> clearly, sort of. >> and here's why. obviously, the republicans still control the house. so there is a lit...

General petraeus had coming into this. where he knew as this whole thing was going to unfold, two things he was very concerned about, one was his family and the impact on them, and also wh what then would be the impact on the agency and the impact on the country. i think he did, and general petraeus i think is a hero for so many young troopers. i think he did the right and honorable thing. but the key question come still comes down to, if an investigation was done and there were no criminal activities attached to this, at what point does this continue to rise up the chain of command? i think t...

By november 11th, that's yesterday, sunday, the senate intelligence chair, senator diane finestein said her committee would investigate this entire issue, because she believes her committee should have been informed earlier in the process. new york republican peter king also had this to say. >> we received no advanced notice. it was like a lightning bolt. this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i think we should have been told. >> once the fbi realized it was investigating the director of the cia or the cia director had come within its focus or its scope, i believ...