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Dealing with as journalists, obviously, is with this exception, we don't really know right now who the victims are and so we're waiting to hear, and it's -- it's got to be a methodical process on the part of the police, bill, because you don't want -- you don't want something out there, you don't want someone to learn on television or see in the newspaper that somebody they know or loved has been killed. >> and i think that's part of what we've learned, what this law enforcement learned in the columbine situation. how to do that right. how to not release information that was going to hurt peop...

Weaver just asked the question, what next? what happens here in aurora? let me bring in two guests. bill briggs, nbc news contributor. also covered columbine which is just 12, 13 miles down the road, and tom mouser, whose son daniel was killed at column comen cull booin who was just 159 years old. all of us were at columbine, and how does the community cope in the aftermath? such a shock. everybody we've spoken to seems to be in the say the of shock. >> that's the first phase. we have to get through it again. it's horribly familiar. you work through it once again. this is a community with some...