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Vo voting on who is the next party will be? >> well, i ran the young democrats in the early 2000s and not this much difference of the grass roots of the party and the establishment of the party. there is a huge gulf between the grass roots and the party establishment. i don't believe that anybody else can take those pieces of wood and build a bridge. tom ter rez not only supports the ttp, and excel pipeline and the dakota access pipeline and those are main issues for voters. i don't know how he can represent the progressive wing of the party knowing that supports those issues. >> i interviewed...

Former bernie sanders' campaign manager jeff weaver. alex, what is going won the vote right now, and where are we? >> well, we thought that it was going to be close, and it sure was. on the first round of balloting, tom perez fell one vote short of winning. he needed one more vote and that is all it would have taken, but he did not make it. and keith ellison is still in the running, and they claim that they can pull it out on the second round of balloting which is about to get underway, and first some speeches, and see how the second round of balloting is, and the field has winnowed and the ch...

Good one. >> from what i have observed, yeah. there is a schism there between the people who want to completely disrupt the democratic party, and hey, we have it going there, and tear it up and start from the scratch, and there are people who want to go in there to fix what is wrong. and debbie wassermann schultz was not a good leader, and the idea that i would stand with the establishment or anybody else who stands with tom perez stands with the establishment is wrong. >> that is the flaw in this sort of the line of logic. that tom perez represents the little guy and just because he serves in...

Grass roots of the party, and it is his responsibility to build the bridge and not mine. and there is a lot of bridge that will be immediate to be bui built, but we will be there with the wood and put our feet, and hands and heart into rebuilding the party, and see what the votes come out, and we will know in the next hour or so. >> thank you very much, jayne. i know that no matter whether it is congressman keith ellison or former secretary of labor tom perez, whoever brings, they will be bringing the hammer to you the help you build that bridge. thank you. coming up, we will continue the foll...

Third time, but it is going to tell you where we stand on the big issues, about water, and clean energy and dirty energy, and property rights, and trade, and help the small family farmers in nebraska and indiana or the help of big ag, and that is going to tell you where we stand. tpp and dakota may be off of the table, but other issues will be coming up. tom perez is qualified to be the attorney general or the secretary of the state, but he does not have the chops and the kills is and the experience with the grass roots to lead the party as a dnc chair. >> which is more important for the dnc c...