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>> bill: wait, wait, wait. you are a man of principle, are you not, counselor. >> yes, i am. >> bill: you want to pay higher taxes do you not. >> yes i do. i want everyone to pay higher taxes. >> bill: if everyone doesn't you are not gone that. >> i gave the difference in charity. at the same time, it's not my check to the government is not going to pay for the jobs bill. >> bill: you set a good example. every guy like you, you two guys would send more money to the government, i think it would be more sympathetic. i would give you the last word. >> i would simply make the point in world war ii...

Might wants to emphasize that instead of the class warfare business. yeah, i think first of all it was a real plot. >> bill: absolutely. >> this guy actually provided bombs to undercover agents. ied's that they then told killed americans and had a party i believed when george bush was president and that he would weaken security and war on terror. >> bill: he hasn't done it? >> three years into the term haven't been hit. the oof is in the pudding. i have to step aside and either he didn't do what he said he did or it's still working. >> bill: of course, the economy overwhelms all of that glad t...

Never paid that kind of money. ever. counselor, do you understand my argument that if you raise capital gains tax in the middle of a recession the stock market is going to go down 3,000 points. >> i don't know anybody that doesn't see a good investment and put the money in that even if they have to pay more either. i would would whether i was paying 15% or 39%. >> bill: always a risk in the stock market. nobody knows. >> it's an assumed risk after you have done your due diligence to make sure -- >> bill: you guys are both sitting here telling me you must know if the cap gains tax is raised the...

And anger on. >> bill: oh, disgust and anger. >> your mouth turns into a square. whenever i see your mouth turn into a square, i know you are getting more and more angry. the one thing that i love that you do you keep your legs. see how your legs are split. saying i'm fair to everyone. legs are angled out. >> bill: i am fair. >> watch your thumb. thumbs are normal. they are fine. get to the report where we are talking about if you want to be partisan the thumb shoots up and now you are feeling powerful. the interest thing was you intimidated barbara because at one point you kind of almost yell...

>> bill: you are telling me if they get and they are deadlocked and they don't like the candidates that are on there that they can't go another place at the convention? i believe they can there is some kind of procedure. >> on the second and third ballots they can. >> i knew there was. >> super delegates can. >> bill: you can take your super delegates. >> first ballot somebody will have a majority on first ballot. >> bill: that's absolutely possible. there is a chance that there could be a draft. let's get to your pal, bill clinton who now is injecting himself somewhat. he has pulled back in t...