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>> gillian: the whole point of deterrence is that they have a tool chest, so to speak, in political science talk, options that you can use against rogue states like russia. the threat of sanctions is pretty meaningless unless it is backed up by other partial penalties like weapons sales to ukraine, or even military action, should putin actually cross the line and launch an incursion into ukraine. >> that's exactly right, gillian. that's why secretary pompeo made the point that vladimir putin, just like president xi of china, or watching activities around the globe and they are not scared of us...

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Couple fronts, one, folks don't get really sick but, also, helps hospitals from being overwhelmed. how big a deal are these authorizations? >> it is a big deal. whenever we can add solid tools to the tool chest it's a big deal. but you have to remember these would pills while they are oral antivirals, you take them early in your course of infection so within three to five days, pfizer's pill has a considerable edge over the merck pill because it's a higher efficacy rate around 90% at preventing hospitalization or death, the merck pill around 30%. but there are drug-to-drug interactions with bo...

I wonder, doctor, how do you think we should be dealing with this when it comes to schools? you see more and more going remote. again, like it's 2020. is that the right response when so many kids are still unvaccinated, we're all going to get together for the holidays? >> you know, i do think it's the right response because so many kids are unvaccinated. and because kids also live in households where they may have an adult that's unvaccinated. remember that children can get infected. children can experience severe disease even if that is not the majority of cases. but children also can spread ...

About a 30% decrease in symptoms and hospitalizations, although it is something. but i'd actually like to see those two pills combine in a polypill. i think that will be more effective. >> very quickly, dr. purnell, what do you think? >> i agree. i think the point for us to make here is as long as we have multiple tools in the tool chest we'll be in the best position to beat back this pandemic whether that's eventually a polypill or just multilayered strategies from a public health standpoint, gitsi getting masks out to all americans, that we have adequate testing and that we know the importan...