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The biden white house pointed out today they'll be able to deliver 15 million of these doses to pharmacies and clinics one week after authorization, as you mentioned. so we're looking at probably like the week of november 10, kind of around that time, because the cdc is meeting on the 2nd. but you're right, the children's infrastructure for pediatric immunizations is something we should try to mimic and copy. i do feel like it will take weeks for this to really kind of settle in across the country. >> when you talk about convincing parents, there's no polling from the kaiser family foundation....

Data. the top line data that we have is from the press releases from pfizer. looks like it's great in terms of its effectiveness, in terms of the response. i also want to see the data. once the fda committee meets and the cdc meets and they provide the recommendation, i'm looking forward to getting my children vaccinated. we want to go back to normalish as soon as possible for our children as well. >> neil: i like that normaish. we don't know what that is anymore. but one thing about the booster push, so many people getting it without consulting their doctors. they're getting it on their own. ...

Good news. does it beg more investigation? >> what the companies typically do is put out high level top line data. that generates enthusiasm and holds at bay the critics who will look deep into the data like myself. there are concerns about the second dose in healthy children specifically boys. a study out of davis just 3 weeks ago found 1 in 6,000 boys 12 through 16 who get the second dose get serious heart symptoms. that's 6 times higher than the rate of hospitalizations for the infection itself. people are saying can we get benefits from the first dose. > john: this is one-third the amount...