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Her debt to society. >> well, first of all i would turn to michael's p oi nt and say universities are exactly where you would find the class a rap bags. we talk about ricidivism. she served 22 years and she is not recidivised. rehab is not a bad thing. she served her time. she has got almost a real job. i don't see the problem. i think people are coming at it at a purely political point of view. if this was a prn on the right side -- a person on the right side of the political spectrum. >> never going to happen. >> there is never a right leaning killer. >> employed by columbia university. >> a...

Yourself? i would have thought i would have been dead after that. you fell a football field plus 15 yards. were you surprised when you got to the bottom that the breathing was still happening? >> definitely. i was dazed because i was actually knocked out during one of the rolls. when we got to the bottom, the big hit thankfully slowed us down. that's when it was lights out for me. jeremy was lucky enough -- well maybe lucky enough to be conscious during the whole thing. he said are we here, what is going on? >> how long until somebody got to you? >> i would say to the p oi nt we came to rest t...

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