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The facts of this case goes against their narrative. one thing i only say, tucker, is that the left can pull a racist narrative from thin air where it doesn't exist. when it's in their face, they try to avoid it at all costs. especially when the perpetrator is a black person against another white person which happens more often in this country given the fact that black americans are the most murderous group in america. what is interesting here is that the two biggest race cases of the last two years arguably george floyd and kyle rittenhouse never actually produced a single piece of evidence. ...

Outside, you hear -- even though the windows are blacked out and everyone is in a bad position. they have to watch the news on tv like everyone else. they won't have anybody in the courtroom which will be a disadvantage for them. but when these things happen, it makes them feel like people want to know who they are and that afterwards they will be contacted. that knowledge in them, that fear is with them right now, is it not? >> you are absolutely correct. first of all, msnbc should get their news from fox. they could learn a lot. the problem, these jurors are not in a bubble where they are no...

Other, it's stories like this. that's why i think it's worth pounding on l this lawmaker. you shouldn't lie about stuff like this because itff really ds make people paranoid and unhappy, wouldn't you say? >> i'm not so sure that she lied. i think i may know, number one, he did call her a lazy b word and we have to remember that she is nine months pregnant, she had 20 my items in the line and this busybody comes over and, you know, starts getting upset about that. he should've just rolledps his eyes like the rest of us do and gone on about his day and complained about it, you know, to his wife ...

Pounding on this lawmaker. you shouldn't lie about stuff like this because it really does make people paranoid and unhappy, wouldn't you say? >> i'm not so sure that she lied. i think i may know, number one, he did call her a lazy b word and we have to remember that she is nine months pregnant, she had 20 my items in the line and this busybody comes over and, you know, starts getting upset about that. he should've just rolled his eyes like the rest of us do and gone on about his day and complained about it, you know, to his wife but instead -- >> tucker: let me stop you there and agree. i agre...

>> to be clear, i'm not saying this is a hate crime, number two, and number two, i didn't say all of these were race based. >> we're talking about this case. is there evidence -- no mark is there evidence in this case of race? >> what i said is we should investigate to see if there is evidence of racism. we can't dismiss race out of hand. i don't think that's unreasonable. >> i haven't seen anything mark i haven't seen anything in all the facts that have come out that supports a claim that there was racial bias here. if you have seen something so far, i would go along with you. it could be a r...