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Simpson case. you heard the debate there. it's impossible to talk about this case without it turning into a race debate. you had exactly the same thing in the o.j. case. what is your take on the zimmerman-trayvon case? >> i think it's a race case without question. it was made a race case and the defense played the race card when they introduced a statement made by trayvon when he referred to zimmerman as a cracker. so race is the case. >> how do you see it playing out? obviously florida has a particular set of laws which are pretty supportive of what george zimmerman did, if you believe his ve...

-- turning into a race debate. what is your take on the zimmerman, martin court action we're seeing? >> it's a race case without question. it was made a race case before being filed. the defense played the race card the other day introduce add statement made by trayvon when he referred to zimmerman as a cracker. and so, race is -- race is the case. >> how do you see it playing out? i mean, obviously, florida has a particular set of laws, which are pretty supportive of what george zimmerman did. if you believe his version of events. >> well, how do i see it playing out? >> yeah. >> well, i thin...

I don't even know what you're talking about. my site which is the largest of awful them has actual reporters on here trying to uncover facts, which we are doing. >> good. >> this is not a race case. martha: final thought from you on that, alan. >> certain things we know. we know that somebody without a gun was shot by somebody with a gun. we also know that there was a 911 call where you hear him being told, that is zimmerman being told, don't pursue, we'll take care of it and he appears to continue to pursue. had that pursuit not taken place trayvon may have been alive today. >> we know the ma...