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He's relatively confident in the final analysis, if it takes reconciliation to enact these programs, not just what the president has proposed which is overwhelmingly popular with the american people, that he thinks they'll be able to get the 50 votes in the senate, and we hope we can get our majority in the house. but people are beginning to understand that we cannot -- we have a limited amount of independence. and i think joe manchin understands that, too. >> if this becomes a two-step process and manchin doesn't commit to voting in favor of the reconciliation bill, will you not commit to vot...

Look like and what the white house would support. because we have seen them come out tougher against the idea of indexing the federal gas tax to the price of inflation. that is something that the white house has not supported and they come out saying this is not something part of our what we would like to get behind given the president said he is not raising taxes on people, making under $400,000 a year. they believe this would be part of it and say it would essentially punish people taking kids to school, going to work on a daily basis. that is something that has been suggested as part of the...

That's why if you talk to reporters who are on the hill yesterday who covered the caucus meeting after mueller's testimony, there were members who said they felt like there has been some movement by speaker pelosi and she's allowing if more members come out over this recess that she herself may switch positions. when she says we're not going to move until we have everything we need, she's not necessarily talking about evidence. they're not going to get anymore evidence over the six-week recess. there's not going to be witnesses that are going to come forward. >> what she said is by going to co...

We know that north korea's gained a great deal of capability in building reactors, in refining nuclear materials, in reprocessing plutonium and building and testing it. they've built a great deal of indigenous capability and can't assume we can stall out the administration. >> two track process, one on delivery and one on the bomb itself. we saw a lot of delivery tests, ergo the missile test. and now we're seeing a major claim on the bomb side. will you put this together, while they can do what richard engel has described earlier, crossing the red line, putting together something miniaturized ...

Sure that will get to the summit and then if we get to the summit what follows do we now have a two track process where the north south koreans are talking to centrally about a peace arrangements and humanitarian assistance being of kind of first step of that in the u.s. and north korea talking about denuclearization in the past is that right imagine those two parents going forward after the two summits and then maybe multi multilateral diplomacy as well ok we thank you so much for your your assessment and your your insights thanks for not patrick a crony from the center for a new american sec...