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Lead because as joy said there's theater going on here. the way people looked at the presidency was during watergate. after my testimony people made the oddest comment, they said "we enjoyed your show." and i didn't understand it. but a lot of people see this sort of thing as pure theater. so while we've had this before, we've never had it as compressed, we've never had the underlying falsehoods that are build i buildi building. there's going to be a time he needs the credibility and he has none. >> you mentioned his supporters, one of the things that can get frost the tumult and these crises ...

"we enjoyed your show." and i didn't understand it. but a lot of people see this sort of thing as pure theater. so while we've had this before, we've never had it as compressed, we've never had the underlying falsehoods that are building. there's going to be a time he needs the credibility and he has none. >> you mentioned his supporters, one of the things that can get frost the tumult and these crises is that actually his approval has been quite stable. you know, tracking poll over the last month, trump at 43% a month ago, 42% today. and he got 46% of the vote. so he is not popular. voted in ...

Times -- >> okay. >> tracking poll, a tracking poll every day -- >> wait, hold on, we're going to talk with the substance of it. >> what aaron reid tried to do, you smeared me. >> what happened is the victims of the crime or people afraid of crime. what hillary clinton's been doing is bringing in millennials. >> who felt disinfranchised over the past 50 years and do almost -- >> sir, sir, sir, no. nope. no. les go to katy ter. >> wow. >> katy. i have a question for you, joy before we go. >> we don't have a lot of time. >> how manies have you have -- >> you didn't let me say anything positive. ...

Models are based on input. >> that's right. >> and in a sense it may be fair to say since the polls were wrong -- garbage in, garbage out. here's my question, though, this was not just a few polls. in the last five months i'm guessing there were about 150, 200 polls done. maybe trump was up in 15, 20 of those. hillary was up in the vast majority. vast, vast, vast majority. why were they so wrong? >> it's hard to say at this point but i think it's worth clarifying how they were wrong. it seems to me that the preponderance of the eviden preponderance of the polling error were found in the upper ...

Ahead by 3 or 4. >> let's stop. a lot of people look at the "l.a. times" tracking poll, the one poll people say got it right. well, actually, "the l.a. times" poll had trump winning by 5, winning the popular vote by 5. he lost it by 1. so that's a six-point error, more than a lot of the polls that supposedly got it wrong. but keep going. why did the polls get the upper midwest wrong? >> i think what those states have in common is they have a large white working class population and in those same states clinton was expected to do quite well in traditionally republican areas like the milwaukee s...