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Difficult and terrifying to the average american public. if these were just two average loons with high-powered weapons trying to shoot up a school that's one issue. one we sort of connect it to a broader narrative, that isis is trying to push that there are sleeper cells all over the world especially here in the united states willing to do violence on their behalf that's when we actually really give this organization a big propaganda boost. and like i said i would be very, very hesitant to actually say that these two things were connected until we get more proof. >> i got. it let me follow up...

Government-appointed board voted for the blistering report. >> we have never once found evidence of a plot. never once identified an unknown terrorist plotting attacks on the homeland or anywhere else. one time we found a guy who was raising money for the eltshabab terrorist group. >> that is it? >> the fbi was probably circling around had him already and would have come across him anyhow. >> reporter: ever since edward snowden leaked information, the white house has been on defense. calling it a critical tool for tracking terrorists. >> we cannot unilaterally disarm our intelligence agencies....

They don't like their phones, their e-mails being looked at by by young voters, down 17 points in one month. that's a huge swing in one month. that's a key part of the president's base. that's a big deal.ç now look at independents. the president is going to win rating right there in just a month. pqr(j they hear about this, they're concerned. they actually support the idea of the government tracking terrorists. they think this president might have gone too far. little big. people get to the competence question, can a democratic president, a president who believes in the government as an instr...

Be black. >> gregg: given the absence of witnesses, this is going to be an uphill battle for prosecutors. no witnesses or no reliable truce worthy witnesses may equal reasonable doubt. we'll wait and see. good to see you both. >> patti ann: there are growing questions over just how big the government's surveillance program has grown. coming you up what it could mean for tracking terrorists and your personal safety. [ lisa ] my name's lisa, and chantix helped me quit. i honestly loved smoking, and i honestly didn't think i would ever quit. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix (varenic...

Growing questions over how big the n.s.a. data mining operation has grown and how effective it is in tracking terrorists. judith miller is an investigative reporter and author and fox news contributor. we will start with the n.s.a. insider who provided the information to the "guardian" 29 years old and an american. he is a contractor who worked for the national security agency and a former c.i.a. agent. here is what he had to say in an interview taken why he decided to expose the program. >> because even if you are not doing anything wrong you are watched and recorded. the storage capability i...