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-- you've led eight trade missions. what are your thoughts on the moves yesterday? >> it's unfortunate. president seems determined to engage in a zero-sum game on trade. it's hard to really figure out, after now, a year and a half, the underlying principle that the new administration seems to apply to trade issues, but if there's one common thread, i think it must be that if other countries, including our friends and allies, are pen fitting, it's coming at the cost of america. which is contrary to what has been a very kusuccessful 70-yea run which the united states has enjoyed the free and ope...

Leadership on the trump administration talking about trade issues. steve mnuchin the treasury secretary was on fox news. let's listen to what they had to say. >> is there still the possibility of a trade war? >> well, chris, we're putting the trade war on hold. so right now we are -- we have agreed to put the tariffs on hold while we try to execute the framework. >> the trade war on hold, the headline from mnuchin's remarks. what do you make of this relationship as it stands now between the united states and china? of course we're still following the story about zte, this telecommunications co...

One brought it up to the president in the lunch yesterday. why? >> what the president was doing was providing a very broad overview of the topics that are important to all of us and we have those conversations with the president privately and one-on-one. i know that whenever i do call about those types of issues and believe me, i have talked to the president about china and about tariffs. he was always very, very responsive and i feel that i get a better discussion when i'm talking to him one-on-one and able to make the points that are important to iowans, for example. i know many others have ...

Have very good working conditions. so again that is another bond that ties our two countries together. we will continue to discuss those trade issues. we will have the nato meeting in the summer. we will meet again there. and let me say in conclusion, that apart from the political relations that are very close, and while we sometimes may look at issues differently, but generally on the basis of friendship, on partnership, we are linked by ties. in the world of sicience. in the world of culture. we still have the -- host the largest number of troops ever since 1945. about 17 million members of ...

He tends to shoot first and aim second. if you look at the trade issues where we're going to put tariffs on aluminum and steel -- >> and you just got back from china. ky only imagine what they're saying. >> it's not that he's wrong to confront china. but when you impose sanctions without thinking about the consequences, it's like putting a warning shot to your head and firing, that you are going after china, but you hit korea, south korea, canada, europe, the mexicans. but not china. so he's instinctive, inintuitive, but he needs to rely upon the advice of people who have been here. is what is...