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United states' advantage. let's listen to that. >> when confronted with evidence -- for instance, there is a scene in the book where he starts talking about the world trade organization, which is an organization that actually gives us great leverage if there is unfair trade practice in the world. and he said, this is the worst organization in the world and the advisors who are experts in there say, no. and trump says, well, we lose our cases there and they bring out the document. no, we win 85.7% of the cases, not just 85%, but 85.7. and trump says, no, that's not true. they said, bring in you...

Unfair trade practice in the world, and he said this is the worst organization in the world, and the ad vvisers who are expes in there say, no, it is closing his mind to the information that makes it possible for the president to weigh arguments and data. >> do you have concerns about the tariffs that are levied and whether they could be, you know, curve this economic growth and create new problems down the road? >> i do. and i think that they carry the grave risk that they undermine and damage the strength of the american economy and make it harder rather than easier to make us more competiti...

Harsher tariffs on china? >> we are tocontinuing to monit that process. >> reporter: is the goal at the -- quickly, is the goal at the end of the day to get china back to the negotiating table the way they were at the negotiating table with american trade officials just a few months ago? >> the goal at the end of the day is to end the unfair trade practice that china has engaged in for decades and that the administrations before this president have ignored. >> reporter: returning to the question of election security, the president has said other people also may have been involved in the effort...

Be patient. thoughts on that? >> i would interpret "be patient," just let this go for a while harley-davidson, don't do anything. i think we will get a deal out of that and everyone will be happy. so far i haven't seen any deals and it's not even really clear what negotiations are underway. so i can understand the president's desire to tamp this down because it is an embarrassing result. >> bret: but on the big picture, when you look at this policy and what they are attempting to do, potentially does it pay off down the road? >> this is the issue that has bedeviled trading nations for as long ...

That will mostly center on long time unfair trade practice. i won't be talking about the russian witch hunt folks for a while. i should put up a clock to see how long he made it. >> robert mueller had other ideas. here we are talking about it. he won't be able to resist chiming in. this underscores today's development, of course, this is not a hoax. we now have 20 people charged. this is the farthest thing from a witch hunt. this is real. while i don't think bob mueller thinks this way at all, it is a handy reminder for the public also this is something that is ongoing. it is bringing substant...