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Squandered some of that opportunity. >> i have donald trump on the show recently. i'm sure you know. he was very scathing about china, saying the enemy, the americas should have nothing to do with them, we should put restrictive trade stuff on them and so on. what do you think? >> there's no future in that. i think -- again, get back to the fact that i do think we live on one very small planet and, you know, i also think that the changes lead us increasingly towards globally towards democracy and freedom and that's the exciting part. >> which is obviously what america's always stood for. but c...

>> piers: i had donald trump on the show recently. i'm sure you know. he was very scathing about china, saying the enemy, the americas should have nothing to do with them, we should put restrictive trade stuff on them and so on. what do you think? >> there's no future in that. i think -- again, get back to the fact that i do think we live on one very small planet and, you know, i also think that the changes lead us increasingly towards globally towards democracy and freedom and that's the exciting part. >> piers: which is obviously what america's always stood for. but china in particular seems...