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Andrea, didn't respond. >> we're still wait to go hear from the white house on that. kristen welker, josh lederman, thanks to both. democratic senator chris murphy was in ukraine talking to zelensky, trying to find out why the arms were being held up. senator murphy, first of all, what is your reaction to what has been reported from fiona hill and some of these other testimonies, yovanovitch and some of the other witnesses from the state department? >> we're getting more details on what was a long term, highly orchestrated campaign to try to turn our relationship with ukraine into a political ...

Phones, bare minimum, not to be used by military personnel because of back doors and they can be used by chinese intelligence. >> this effort by ross and this commerce department is a huge mistake. we have the head of the cia saying we shouldn't use this equipment. we've got the pentagon banning the use of these phones. we've got every member of the intelligence community saying this is a national security threat. what ross and trump may have done is they may have created the one time of near unanimous agreement in the senate from our republican colleagues to our democratic colleagues that we ...

Let's begin with the very latest from our pentagon correspondent barbara starr. barbara, what are you learning? >> reporter: wolf, at this hour, it's been the same all day long. high stakes poker between obama and putin, and the debate is over where is edward snowden and how the u.s. is going to get him back. if edward snowden is still in russia, as the u.s. believes -- >> he is in russia, yes. >> reporter: it could be washington's best chance to get him back. that's why the u.s. is pressing the russians so hard. >> we do expect the russian government to look at all the options available to th...