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Back next hour to the streets and traffic cops and real police, that can control the situation and are the right police and banished, and the sheer numbers that protest, and they couldn't handle it. and 60,000 people in total, you know, and harris. >> harris: if you and i were talking earlier and yesterday, even as we were reporting, we thought that we might see a change in the level offer the numbers of people in the streets. because it's a workday there. because sunday has been a workday there, did that make any difference, did people go back to their jobs? >> harris, all bets are off in thi...

It's hard to imagine how they would come back to this city. many of the police stations have been destroyed. even where the traffic police have been set up have been burned out. people picked on the police because they don't trust them. the traffic cops were always intimidating drivers and extorting money from them. it's hard to see when the police were driven off the streets 72 hours ago that they could really come back here. the situation now is really vigilante neighborhood watch groups and all the different back ali alleys. they're incredibly angry with the police. if the police were walki...

Breakdown in security and law enforcement in the outlying areas, where you still don't have any police officers on the streets. some traffic cops came back but they are not doing anything for security. people are arming themselves to protect whatever they have. you saw these criminal gangs as people call them, going around to clubs with samurai swords, in some cases with guns to loot property. last night we had some fierce gun fire going on for several hours close to the downtown area where it appeared that some heavy caliber guns were being used in the street battles. >> fred, what is your se...

Deployed around the city, and tanks are parked here at the great pyramids of giza. an army officer insisted the pyramids are still open for tourists, but the soldiers wouldn't let us come any closer. this is part of what has egyptians so scared right now, a number of hotels and casinos that were torched and looted in the first days of protests. >> it does seem, ivan, the egyptian military clamped down today, making it more difficult for protesters to get access and journalists to get access. was that your experience? >> yeah, they took a more aggressive posture. we heard reports that police we...