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Did he sexually assault her. we heard professor christine blasey ford say yes to that and give her story about that. what is difficult -- what's the problem in not answering that simple question? >> well, i know it may appear to be a simple question, lawrence, but it's not. and ear's why. because my client was effectively drugged at the time. so she has things that she observed, associated with that gang rape that we believe lend credence to the fact that brett kavanaugh was involve. there's other facts that may lend credence to the fact he was not involved. so it's not as simple as just a yes...

>> cnn does not have that information quite yet but continue on. >> it was breaking news but the bottom line mark judge's ex-girlfriend is willing to come and testify openly about this notion of these train rapes that mark judge confessed to her that he participated in. we're not going to hear any of that. >> you're exaggerating what she said. i've never read she said mark judge has claimed he participated in train rapes. you're exaggerating. >> you better read that new yorker article, hon. >> don't call me hon. >> i apologize. scott, i'm just saying -- >> i'm jumping in. >> give me one second...

Why would it have not come out before now? why would someone not have called law enforcement? these were her words. >> the contrast here is brett kavanaugh's own words about his -- what he was like in high school and now going into his college years and what certain others are saying about him. >> in his interview on fox news, as everyone probably has heard by now, he said it again and again, i was an upstanding student and i cared about young women, essentially i was a choir boy. >> all right, kate, thanks very much. i know you'll continue to cover this. there are details that are working on ...

School, sort of more generically. he's set to say tomorrow, quote, but i was not perfect in those days just as i'm not perfect today. i drank beer with my friends, usually on weekends. sometimes i had too many. in retrospect i said and did things in high school that made me cringe now." that seems a step further than what we saw on fox. >> i saw the fox interview. he looked like a choir boy in that interview. obviously his lawyers or whoever is prepping him said you better temper those remarks. remember, the year book that he signed has numerous references to drinking by him and he seems to ha...

Saying, quote, in approximately 198 2, i became the victim of one of these gang or train rapes where mark judge and brett kavanaugh were present. she didn't specifically say that kavanaugh was one of the attackers. is your client claiming that kavanaugh raped her? >> i'm not going to have any further comment on that specific allegation. she's going to detail that for the fbi and hopefully for the senate judiciary committee, ultimately, in a public hearing. but i'm not going to provide any -- >> that's a pretty big thing to hang out there. are you saying that kavanaugh was present? that kavanau...