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>> things like that have worked since the colorful war. one congress enacted the false claims act t. works well. perhaps we can expand it. >> indeed. >> thank you. >> governments are scrambling to deal with the sequester fallout in their states. when asked who is to blame, the oklahoma governor answers -- everybody. nice to see you, governor. >> good to see you, greta. >> who are the everybodys? i got my list. who's yours? >> there is a lot of people. first of all, beginning at the top with the leadership. that's the president. the president suggested the sequester, and of course, it went to c...

Can't trust anything that you tell me. the attorney general ought not lie to us. >> it's a felony if we lie to the taish general. if we lie to a federal official, it's a felony. if a federal official lies -- well, that's okay. the idea that the cases will be dismissed. these criminals are not going to be released. the federal government can't release them. it has to be a judge, number 1. but will there be some sort of back lag? the people who will suffer in the criminal cases are the ones in jail because they won't go to trial as fast. am i right? >> we have offered -- in fact the senate offer...

Senator tom coburn can write a book about it. nobody stops it. what is it going to take for someone to actually stop the waste. >> it takes a budget. and to have a budget you need prolonged dethe bait and discussion and dialog about what our budgets are. >> greta: the defense department can't say we've overpaid this defense contractor for 2 billion dollars and that's waste? >> without a budget it's hard to force government into prioritizing thing. >> we need double payment, do we need a budget to figure out we shouldn't pay something twice? >> in theory no. human nature if you force people to ...

Paid twice we'll give you something. and we have to create incentives. >> things like that worked in this country since the civil war when congress enacted the false claims act which is still on the books. maybe we could expand it. >> greta: thanks. >> indeed, thank you. >> greta: and dealing with the sequester fallout in their states. when asked who is to blame for the mess oklahoma governor mary fallon said everybody. nice to see you, governor. >> good to see you. >> greta: who is the everybody? i've got my list of everybody, but who is yours? >> there's a lot of people. well, first of all b...

>> they can't. what that means the army loses the things they need most, people and training. because the thing in the army called erosion curve and when a soldier comes back from combat, his skills in combat erode quickly so you have to put him back in the training business so he maintains those skills. if he doesn't train and you know, 12 million cut in army training funds. 60% of the army's training budget is gone and within a year, the erosion for those units is in fact catastrophic and if we have to go to war again in a year or two, those soldiers won't be ready and by the way, we have an...