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Look at all the other recent incidents, you always come back to this same question. were the pilots properly trained to fly the aircraft into an unusually small number of categories? yes, they learn how to do an engine failure on takeoff. that may happen never. but are they used to hand flying the aircraft at altitude? they're not encouraged to do it. many of them have never done it. >> what are your thoughts sean? i saw you, you don't necessarily agree? >> well you know i think it goes beyond what richard is saying. he is correct. it is a training issue. but there the a bicker problem here. i...

>> let me turn to gino here. can any officer assess any situation reasonably in two seconds? >> if you have an honest belief that your life is at risk. this is a training issue. you're not automatically shoot people. you're supposed to make an assessment. he deserves a lot of credit for the panel. he may not be liked at this table. but doj goes into these departments and find out the most basic things are not happening. maybe we don't just take these departments over after people get killed. maybe with the president's initiative we can have every chief in america take a look and say, are our u...

Caring-type capacity. by the way, we're not -- there was this past week, that said cities are criminalizing homelessness. >> yes. >> and how does that measure with people who need help that does not involve the police. >> as a matter of fact, we saw in recent weeks of the woman being beaten by a police officer. we know that is a circumstance of someone who is mentally ill. and so we know that, we see that, of course, the first responder -- it's hard to even look at. but i do keep wondering is this a training issue? is this because she should never have been there? because she should have been ...

Weapon. the pistol used to kill cliff merck had been sold to a drug dealer by robert and gerald cowan, but for some reason, the cowans' fingerprints did not match those found at the crime scene. >> the person who attempted the comparison was then able to make a match, and he failed to have another examiner verify his conclusions. >> this was a breach of protocol. the standard operating procedure in all crime labs requires a fingerprint examiner to have someone verify his or her conclusions. so the fingerprints were resubmitted for analysis, and this time, the results were verified by a supervi...

Mecks' home matched robert cowan. >> it goes without saying that i was highly irritated and embarrassed for the department. >> i initially on the latent evidence being misread, i tend to believe that was probably a training issue. >> it just was simply a situation where the original examiner was in over his head and couldn't handle it. >> armed with the fingerprint evidence and the ballistic test results, robert cowan was arrested and charged with two counts of first-degree murder. >> took him back to the office and i showed him where his fingerprints were definitely found inside of that house...