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Process. we issued a new policy in 2014. in the five sinces since that po has been in place, we have reduced lethal force from 55 to 15 last year. we study any use of force. to look at it from a training perspective, policy perspective and ensure we are improving what we do. right now, under chief scott's leadership, the team in san diego is eye vvaluating the use force and seeing what they can learn from that and how to improve for unfortunately what we might see as future engagements along these lines. >>you have this forum to tell the american people what's going on and what to do to make t...

They're in the wrong place geographically or from a training perspective. so it's a different problem we have to address today than we did, say, eight years ago. i don't know if it's going to be some different infrastructure or hypothetical infrastructure plan. we're talking about a time in the economic recovery when being that close to full employment means if we do see wages start

Police are crucial. new york city to its great credit in the last month has rolled out a very aggressive plan where they're going to create mental health infrastructure that's reliable so the police don't get these calls as much. but certainly where the police are the default setting. we need to be doing far more to give the police a knowledge base so they act in a position of strength rather than being in the back foot with these situations. >> the family here, one of the families is questioning why police resorted to firing weapons at all based on what you've seen, based on the data that's o...

Going to happen. >> during discussion now harry black, the city manager of cincinnati and back with us, sherrilyn ifill. what's the difference in training for the university and city police and what's the overlap in their jurisdictions and their duties? >> okay. there's a difference between the two from a training standpoint. clearly city of cincinnati police officers go through a rigorous initial training in terms of psychological, physical, situational and in terms of the senate -- university of cincinnati police, i'm not totally clear of the specifics of how they are trained but clerly noth...

Articulate the fear for their lives and the safety maybe even of the young man's mother. but we also have to remember our interactions and how they're going to feed into an event. when you're dealing with somebody that has mental health issues, the way you communicate and the things that you do can either escalate the situation or de-escalate the situation. i see from a training perspective where we have a variety of things, whether it be the consideration of how the event began to unfold, the way that they were interacting with somebody that they knew from history within the community that he...