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It doesn't help with health care, it does not help get their supreme court nominee through. none of this is good for the white house agenda. but now they have created their own mess, and one final point that a senate democratic leader said to me tonight was remember, now that president trump knew before he was sworn in and before he let his national security adviser get the highest security clearance you know, permitted, he knew that he was lying. and so what do you do with that? >> don, i think one thing that is important to stress is that as acting national security adviser he should be spea...

Campaign and trump administration officials and the russian government f. fact they were willing to hide this for a month tells us exactly what we need. >> i'm sorry. i didn't mean to interrupt. >> it's exactly why we need an independent investigation. >> i know your organization is calling for a bipartisan independent investigation. which again is not what senator mcconnell just said. if you could control it -- democrats don't but if you could, what would it look like? would flynn be called to testify? would the president be called to testify? >> i think at a basic, minimal issue is general f...

>> these are on the obamacare health exchanges where you buy insurance. >> subsidized insurance, there would be disruption if they repeal this and create a lot of uncertainty about what comes next. >> and that's the problem you end up, you could end up with a disrupted insurance -- >> accelerate all the problems that we are seeing on the exchange now which is rising premiums, declining enrollment and insurers quitting. what you want to provide certainty so there can be a smooth and orderly transition process to a new reform process. >> what's the strategy now? >> the strategy now is they are g...

Covered overall. >> these are on the obamacare health exchanges where you buy insurance. >> subsidized insurance, there would be disruption if they repeal this and create a lot of uncertainty about what comes next. >> and that's the problem you end up, you could end up with a disrupted insurance -- >> accelerate all the problems that we are seeing on the exchange now which is rising premiums, declining enrollment and insurers quitting. what you want to provide certainty so there can be a smooth and orderly transition process to a new reform process. >> what's the strategy now? >> the strategy ...

Here. it's putin and not donald trump and donald trump is going to let you know, no, he is in charge. >> what is strange, as willie said, jeremy, there are so many easier ways to get -- to say the same thing without insulting your own country. speaking of puppeteers, you talk about steve bannon. you've spoke on with steve bannon and his strategy to move things as quickly as possible. you say there is a couple of reasons why steve bannon told you he is trying to move things as quickly as possible inside the west wing? >> right. these arguments were ones that steve bannon was making throughout t...