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Russia was trying to interfere in the u.s. election. they wanted a bipartisan show of resistance to that. they wanted a bipartisan response to that. republicans including specifically senate republican leader mitch mcconnell responded by saying no, that they didn't want to say anything before the election. that's particularly troubling given that his wife went on to get a cabinet position in the new trump administration, get offered a cabinet position in the new trump administration once trump was elected. but as we are all absorbing that news tonight, we now have a response from the trump tra...

Specifically senate republican leader mitch mcconnell responded by saying no, that they didn't want to say anything before the election. that's particularly troubling given that his wife went on to get a cabinet position in the new trump administration, get offered a cabinet position in the new trump administration once trump was elected. but as we are all absorbing that news tonight, we now have a response from the trump transition and it's a doozy. ready? transition statement on claims of foreign interference in u.s. elections. quote, these are the same people that said saddam hussein had we...

Fair question. because if you didn't buy all of those things, you've got a pretty good explanation. it doesn't change the facts. >> i would just say, i didn't. >> exactly. >> you're assuming too much, phil. >> exactly. but if you did, now when i say, why did you do it? you've got to process that mentally. you're saying to yourself do i tell them or do i not tell them? and also it reinforces the concept that the transition statement created, which is megyn this effort didn't succeed. >> you're not getting away with it. >> you're not getting away this time. >> remain calm. you start talking. don...

Methodology that you need to use to get the truth is quite a bit counterintuitive. for example, when we want to get the truth from someone typically what people do is they start asking a bunch of questions. which tends to put the person on the defensive. and their defenses go up and it becomes a conflict, or adversarial. what we really need to be doing is rather than letting them lie every time they open their mouth we should be talking for them. >> that kauks them down? >> what we're going to do, the step number one is we're going to make what we call a transition statement. meaning i'm going...

Them. >> that kauks them down? >> what we're going to do, the step number one is we're going to make what we call a transition statement. meaning i'm going to stop them from talking. and i'm going to say something to them that really is indicating to them that whatever they've done to try to hide the information that i'm interested in isn't working. so for example i might say, megyn, listen, i've got to tell you, i've got some problems with what you were saying about our credit card statement. >> and what does that telegraph to me? >> it means that anything you've done up to that point hasn't ...