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Dirt on hillary clinton. should they have gone back said, hey, listen, we have is a meeting. somebody saying they were from the russian government and had information on hillary clinton? >> you would think that the campaign would be extraordinarily careful about these types of contacts and if the fbi came and said to you, look, we think they're trying to infiltrate, at that point, most campaigns if i were counsel to a campaign would say, please, disclose. go back and disclose any contacts we are concerned about. but then again, after the meeting in particular you would expect there's would be ...

The transition e-mails, insisting it was an issue for the transition team, not the west wing. they said the president had not changed his approach to cooperating with the special counsel and that he had not discussed dismissing mr. mueller. okey dokey. if that's really the case, why isn't white house telling langhoffer to back off? >> well, that's the sort of interesting thing about this, is that they sort of -- the white house sort of wanted it to have both ways. in some ways, they wanted to undercut mueller's credibility and the fears if mueller were to do something, they would attack him an...

[ inaudible question ] >> no, i'm not. >> mueller's office facing increased scrutiny over reports of possible political bias within the special counsel team. democrats say republicans are trying to taint the investigation to get mueller fired. >> over the weekend, lawyers for the trump transition team accused the special counsel office of gaining unauthorized access to tens of thousands of transition e-mails. some of the e-mails were protected by attorney-client privilege. a spokesperson for mueller denies they were obtained unlawfully saying transition e-mails are part of the public record. j...

Action if robert mueller did something that was against the law? >> well, i think they would argue they're informing congress of what the gsa did here. and that congress should look at the laws that govern gsa to make it more clearly going forward. there had been some talk late yesterday that the trump campaign was going to do something, was going to send a letter to mueller and try and, you know, adjudicate that with him. the curious part about that is the white house itself, which has produced a lot of documents to mueller, has not cited privilege on any of them, the white house officials ha...

Russia would likely try to infiltrate his campaign. this comes as part of president trump's legal team is waging war on robert mueller. let's get to our reporters and analysts. with me, "washington post" white house bureau chief and msnbc political analyst phil rucker. also getting ken delanian, our nbc news national security reporter hooked up now and co-author of that exclusive nbc news reporting. phil, start with you and these, this -- strategy now by the trump legal team to say that mueller illegally and unlawfully obtained transition e-mails. what's going on here? >> that's right. a lawye...