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And procedures. it's done through a rigorous, self-critical, transparent process. after every incident. we issued a new policy in 2014. in the five years since that has been in place, we have reduced lethal force from 55 to 15 last year. because we're using less lethal devices. we study any use of force. to look at it from a training perspective, policy perspective and ensure we are improving what we do. right now, under chief scott's leadership, the team in san diego is evaluating the use of force and seeing what they can learn from that and how to improve for unfortunately what we might see ...

Smugglers, putting themselves and children at risk. it's not safe for anyone. we have vulnerable people in the hands of violent criminals throughout this cycle. that's not a good place to be. >> did what happened yesterday put at the top of your mind to tell the officers, many of whom are latino, many have families that migrated the way we are seeing here now, that be careful with that tear gas, don't put it there where there are women and children, there are other ways to deal with it? i'm not the one there. i'm not there who has to take the rocks. is that a moment where you guys are going to...

And the sheriff will defend himself in court. he enforces the law equally among all people including the immigration laws. and immigration enforcement in maricopa will continue regardless of the investigation. if the justice department reaches that conclusion that enforcement of the immigration is a problem, obviously we will fight it out in court. for now we are happy to have them look at what sheriff i don't is doing and we think they will determine there is no problem but if they think this create as problem for the county, then, with that proposition we disagree with it completely. >>neil:...