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Different than getting your tonsils out or, you know -- >> in what sense is it different? >> well, it's the only procedure, well, it's only procedure that when it is done there is a life that is taken. you can have complications in that procedure and so the procedures are there to help deal with some of those complications. >> so you're suggesting there's more medical complications with abortions than some of these other procedures that are done in surgical centers? >> that is how debate was playing out today in texas over a bill that would likely shut down post of the state's abortion clinics...

>> well, it's the only e, wl, i procedure that when it is done there is a life that is taken. you can have complications in that procedure and so the procedures are there to help deal with some of those complications. >> so you're suggesting there's more medical complications with r procedures that are done in surgical centers? >> that is how debate was playing out today in texas over a bill that would likely shut down post of the state's abortion clinics if allowed to become law. it's what's known as a t.r.a.p. law, a bill full of burdensome regulations and red tape targeted specifically at a...

Many republicans who support planned parenthood, patients of planned parenthood, employees of planned parenthood, donors of planned parenthood, to see politicians go after women's health care access. it's crazy. >> the only place i differ, it doesn't feel like it's a narrow group. but has become the way republican governance works, the new normal in the states. it was crazy when mississippi decided to come up with this variation on a trap law that was going to close down the last clinic in the state. >> right. >> and now that's the new normal for how republicans govern everywhere they've got p...

Similar 20 week ban and if this happens, texas would become the tenth state to do so. and then you have states like arkansas and north dakota which recently passed fetal heart beat laws, and trap law which is make it harder for abortion providers to offer services. how do lawmakers like yourself stop the statewide efforts? >> that's a great concern because there are now 41 states across the country that do limit abortions. and the question is are they being limited at 24 weeks or are they now trying to roll it back to 12 weeks or 20 weeks. i mean, it is truly i think abhorrent to anyone who fe...

Folks do not want to go back in this country to days before re,, days before birth control was legal and available and affordable. i actually feel like this is not a long-term strategy, but it is very discouraging to see, particularly when there are so many republicans who support planned parenthood, patients of planned parenthood, employees of planned parenthood, donors of plan the participanthooenthood, politicians go after women's health care access. >> it doesn't feel like this is a narrow group but has become the way republican governance works, the new normal in the states. it was crazy ...