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Reporter for "the washington post." and michael crowley, senior foreign affairs correspondent for politico. thank you all for being with me. i want to start with you, jeremy. i pulled you into late-night duty a second night in a row because you kept me up last night worrying and general hayden did it again tonight. i want to ask you about what he said. that he posited one of the motives of donald trump trash talking was to intimidate the intelligence community. do you agree with that? >> who knows? but i don't think it's going to work. they're used to talking to presidents and people at all le...

Rainbows and butterflies between these two. it all started with this on monday. >> i am confident in this vision because i'm confident that if i -- if i had run again and articulated it, i think i could have mobilizeed a majority of the american people to rally behind it. i know in conversations that i've had with people around the country, even some people who disagreed with me, they would say the vision, the direction that you point towards is the right one. >> what's obama really saying there? if he ran against trump he thinks he would have won. not every day a sitting president makes a com...

Academic. this is about obama's legacy. he wants it to be seen as a repudiation of hillary clinton and the campaign she ran. so, i mean i think that is where we're seeing the trash talking. and it's striking, really, the way that, you know, trump seems to be under mining obama a lot or trying to from the sidelines and you wonder whether in a couple of months it's will be role reversal. >> trump did not take too kindly to this. he tweeted out, doing my best to disregard the many inflammatory president o. statements and road blocks. thought it was going smooth transition. not. in some ways this ...

Neighborhoods where you think that wouldn't happen. here's a question in politics, can you put the tooth paste back in the tube. is it going to be possible for someone who follows the traditional rules, the normative rules of courteous behavior and rhetoric? >> let's ask the gentleman from the rnc. is anything going to put this -- because trash talking is working. >> i think it's out. i think you have elections to look forward to in the future, particularly in primary settings, in which candidates take it to another level. i really do. i think that door has kind of opened, simply because it so...

Happen. question in politics, can you put the toothpaste back in the tube? is it possible for someone who follows the traditional rules, the normative rules of courteous behavior and rhetoric? >> let's ask the gentleman from the rnc. is anything going to put this -- because trash talking is working. >> i think it's out. i think you have elections to look forward to in the future particularly in primary settings in which candidates take it to another level. i really do. i this i that door is kind of opened simply because it sort of draws people further into the conversation. he was defining his...