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Service to respecting dr. ford but if they respected dr. ford what they would have done was actually have a legitimate fbi investigation where they actually interviewed witness who's could corroborate more extemporaneously the experience she had. look, i don't know how many times we have to go through there. if susan collins really wanted to express her concern for you know, survivors of sexual assault, that's what she would have done, she would have said a full and thorough investigation. we did not have that. the fact is, sexual assault does not have witnesses. people know what they're doing...

Himself to her, and so shan, you co-wrote an opinion piece in "the hill" and writing it would be a shame for investigators to rush this. it would entail also bringing in some experts as it pertains to sexual assault allegations's what do you mean? >> we felt it would be very helpful for the testimony if they would first hear from trauma experts. there's a lot of understandable misunderstandings as to why anybody would delay for such a long time and, the fact is it's well documented that survivors often delay, particularly survivors as young as dr. ford. she was only 15, as you know, fred, and ...

>> well, it would sure -- it would sure clear up all the questions, wouldn't it? >> but the white house will not ask the fbi to investigate. there is going to be a senate hearing, but only christine blasey ford, the accuser, and kavanaugh are testifying. no subpoena for mark judge, the only witness named by christine blasey ford. no testimony by the polygraph expert who tested for it or by trauma experts as ford has asked. and the senate judiciary committee is going to vote on kavanaugh just a day after the hearing. just a day. they already set it, put it on the schedule. why the rush, though?...

Or it might validate his accusers' accounts. republican senator lisa murkowski made the same point to our manu raju today. >> should there be a full fbi investigation into these allegations from kavanaugh's past? >> well, it would sure -- it would sure clear up all the questions, wouldn't it? >> but the white house will not ask the fbi to investigate. there is going to be a senate hearing, but only christine blasey ford, the accuser, and kavanaugh are testifying. no subpoena for mark judge, the only witness named by christine blasey ford. no testimony by the polygraph expert who tested for it ...

That julie swetnick is prepared to testify to under oath. the committee has no plans to listen to anybody except dr. christine blasey ford, dr. ford. again back to the question, can they sustain that when the cavanaugh nomination was already at risk? >> and we'll see. >> it's still a major question, it's an unfolding story, they have recysted bringing in outside witnesses, republicans have made it clear that they will not listen to christine blasey ford's recommendation that they should bring in outside witnesses including mark judge, including two trauma experts, including the person who admi...